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kindkit ([personal profile] kindkit) wrote2022-11-30 08:31 pm

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8. Squicks - What are some things that squick you in fandom - not necessarily "icky", though it can be. From anything involving blood, to bad grammar.

I'm squicked in general by gory/graphically violent/icky of the kind that squicks a lot of people.

Specific to fanfic, which I think is where the question was heading, and taking squick to mean "strong aversion without a moral component"--so not quite my own more limited definition of squick, and also not meaning serious bad stuff like if the fic is racist--I think my biggest squick is the dread Out of Character. I'm very there for interpretation of character, but when the changes are so extreme that I can't see how the author got there from canon, I'm not interested in reading it. (I read fic because I like, or am interested in, the characters, so why bother with what are essentially different characters using the same names?)

Similarly, I tend to be perhaps irrationally irritated by most AUs. When someone's circumstances are completely different, you're unlikely to get the same kind of person. In OFMD, just to pick an example completely at random, Ed has been shaped by a lifetime of piracy. If he'd spent the last 35 years being a baker, he wouldn't be Ed! Not all AUs are implausible, of course, but a lot of them are. And to be blunt, I don't understand the impulse to take the characters out of an interesting world and put them in a mundane one. A pirate ship is a lot more interesting than a bakery! (Of course a good writer can make a bakery interesting. But (a) I'd rather in that case that it was a story set in a bakery from the start, and (b) I'd still rather read about pirates.) I can understand the urge in the opposite direction, taking characters from a mundane setting and giving them superpowers or putting them on a generation ship headed for the next galaxy. But the fandoms I interact with tend to be genre shows and the AUs go away from sff instead of towards it.

I sometimes have fandom-specific squicks, which are usually bits of fanon I particularly dislike. For instance, I will back out of OFMD fics where Ed uses lots of endearments for Stede (or even if Stede uses them for Ed, if it's a lot). And it's a popular thing because people think it's sweet, even though canonically Ed never says that kind of thing and Stede uses an endearment exactly once that I recall, when he calls his wife "darling" at the moment of their incredibly awkward, pained reunion.

Other squicks, for this loose definition of squicks that's more like pet peeves: the trope overriding the character, too many fannish or pop culture in-jokes*, not bothering to do even a little research, and, yes, bad grammar. I know people say that the ability to write correct grammar and the ability to tell a good story don't necessarily correlate, but in my experience, they do. (Perhaps because good writers who know they have trouble with grammar get their stories beta read. Writers who put them up unbeta-ed aren't bothering about other details either.)


*I understand the temptation of in-jokes. I put a few (I like to think of them as Easter eggs) into Also Known as Blackbeard, because I spent a huge amount of time working on that story in a very disciplined way and I had to indulge myself somehow. I have no idea if anybody's noticed any of them.


Full list of questions here:

1. What's changed about your fandom life in the last 365 days?
2. Your newest fandom.
3. You've got your OTP, you have to throw a third into the mix (from the same fandom), creating an OT3. Who is the OTP, and in your opinion, why would they make a perfect third for them?
4. What are the origins of your penname/username?
5. What's a fandom that you wish had a bigger following?
6. What’s the longest you’ve ever been in a fandom? What fandom was it? Not necessarily your oldest fandom, but a fandom that you started and still continue to read/write/create content for in some way.
7. What would make you leave a fandom, or prevent you from getting into it in the first place?
8. Squicks - What are some things that squick you in fandom - not necessarily "icky", though it can be. From anything involving blood, to bad grammar.
9. What's the hardest thing about writing, and why are titles the Worst™?
10. Do you have a fandom that you follow - either regularly or casually - with little to no knowledge of canon?
11. Ships that you currently like a lot. (They don’t have to be OTPs because not everyone has OTPs.) Friendships, pairings, threesomes, etc. are allowed.
12. A ship you have never liked and probably never will.
13. Do you prefer art, fic, or vids? Why? Bonus: If someone was to give you a fandom gift, what format would it be?
14. A pairing – platonic, romantic or sexual – that you initially didn’t consider, but someone changed your mind.
15. What was the first thing you ever contributed to a fandom?
16. Do you remember your first OTP? Who was in it?
17. What is your favourite source text for fandom stuff (e.g., TV shows, movies, books, anime, Western animation, etc.)?
18. How many fandoms have you written for? How many have you been in, and how many are you still in?
19. Has social media caused you to stop liking any fandoms, if so, which and why?
20. What fandom broke your heart?
21. Say something genuinely nice about a character who isn’t one of your faves. (Characters you’re neutral about are fair game, as are characters you dislike or even loathe.)
22. Name a character that you’d like to have for a friend.
23. Your rarest fandoms.
24. A fandom you’ve abandoned and why.
25. Do you have any hard and fast headcanons that you will die defending?
26. A trope which you are virtually certain to love in any fandom.
27. A trope which you are virtually certain to hate in any fandom.
28. How did you first get into fanfic, and what was the first fandom you wrote fic for?
29. Have you ever tried to write for a fandom or ship, and found you couldn’t?
30. Name three things you wish you saw more of in your main fandom (or a fandom of choice).
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[personal profile] delphi 2022-12-02 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I think my biggest squick is the dread Out of Character.

Oh, this is really interesting. My brain didn't immediately connect OOC with squick, but once I read your description something clicked and I realized that yeah, absolutely, a type of OOC is in fact my biggest squick. For me, it's when the OOC-ness isn't just between the canon and fanwork but also internal to the fanwork. Specifically when a character starts a story with their canon stance on A Thing, and the story effectively portrays their negative feelings toward That Thing, but then either goes with an underexplained or undersupported change of heart or pressure/coercion from other characters that isn't narratively acknowledged as pressure/coercion. Going from "Character would famously hate X to happen" to "Character was so happy that X was happening" isn't an impossible journey for me to follow, but if the middle steps aren't there or are skeevy in a way the text denies are skeevy, it hits a real skin-crawling place for me.

The connection from OOC to AU also makes sense to me. Funnily enough, OFMD is one of the few fandoms where I do have an appetite for modern AUs...but mostly for the supporting characters. I am incredibly picky about changing Ed and Stede's circumstances, because they're both such specific characters with such a specific relationship. I bounce off 99% of NZ-set ones in particular because of what they would change for Ed, as well as 99% of anything that doesn't involve Ed being burnt out at the top of his field when he discovers Stede doing something weird but original in the same field as a self-funded mid-life crisis venture, and 100% of ones that flip the dynamic and have Ed solely coming into Stede's world.